I am going to call it right now…ya know because I am so excited… I always love my job but sometimes I really love it. I am going to vent with ya here cause yooze all my peeps. I have been in a designing funk since the Spark. Just no motivation or inspiration etc. Well last week I looked over at my beautiful wife’s face and the clouds opened. I saw it clearly. It was begging to be made and for a few hours you could not tear me away from my computer. The assembly will be tricky so I had to rough draw this one out plus I needed some lengths for all the material I needed to order.
This one will have ZERO milling. It will utilize some materials you have not seen before. Three pieces with a decent spin time (10 minutes). The design will be like nothing I have seen before. In fact I have no idea where the actual pattern/theme came from. It should be very conducive to showing off exotic materials.
So here is the call. The first material combo will be released on 9/12 (Sept 12). Prices will be inline with other 3 piece tops. The name… “The Orchid”.
PS-anyone that knows me well enough knows this might all change in a few hours so take it all with a grain of salt
Prototyping starts tomorrow. This one will take a while. I will post some teaser pics once I get to a good point. Wish me luck…
Getting the prototype machines set up now. Here is the rough drawing so I got something to start with. The ball side is only drawn on the top portion so disregard the lower section on the ball side. I am sure there will be plenty of changes as I go but it is a great starting point!
For those that have a hard time seeing it, this is sort of what it will look like from the grip side
Great progress, loving it so far but got a long ways to go!!
yup, orchid is not going to work on this one lol
once the stem is in this, it is going to be sick. Might pull an all nighter lol
it is hollowed out so much I think the CG will be low enough it should be a pretty easy spinner. I will mainly be using titanium stems for this one hopefully
The stem sucks but you get the idea. This is a ROUGH ROUGH prototype but wanted to show some progress!
when I am done with this stem…I was going to go home but BACK to the machine!
Heading home to take some pics. Done for the day! Give me 45 minutes
Prototype: This is not done but wanted you to see where it is at. MANY changes to be made and yes, the grip is milled. When I say no milling, I assume you know the grip will 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time will be milled As of now, NOTHING is set in stone for this top and the bottom is not done. I think that should cover it. Enjoy the pics!
The proto’s will be going in the garbage…
I like it but dont love it. It will be tweaked
the tip does not fit the design. The wheels are turning and will turn all night. Just the process, takes time
Got a great idea for the stem. Not going to sleep well tonight lol
my man!! Can you imagine?! Perfect shape for exotics
68g as it sits. This will be a big heavy top!
Should finish around 60
Threw up in my mouth when I looked at the end of the stem again 😛 I got a great plan to really tie this into the design. It will get a little longer. Been wanting to do this style long stem for quite a while. Well off to work to get a jump on it! Wish me luck!
Last one for now
Bottom needs more tweaking as does the grip diameter but we are getting closer
I guess we know who wears the pants in this group…
Wanis Naguib you won a proto
proto’s are not in mint condition but better than nothing!
Contact Rich N Sue Stadler to set up shipping! Thanks Wanis!
timing a spin now. was getting just over 8 with the longer stem, I am guessing 9 now
I thought so too and tried it first. Just a big top so the unbroken up area did not look right. I love this bottom though but it will be slightly different in the final version due to assembly
Ok all, I have given you enough teasers on the next top. I hope you enjoyed the progress pics. We are still a long ways off and cannot go full production until the Sparks are done. I will not be showing anymore so you can be surprised by the final version. Thanks for joining me on the ride, its always an adventure. I will provide details as I firm them up. Right now, nothing is firm.
Anyways, have yourself a wonderful rest of your week!
Too excited to wait to take pics in the studio
it is always a process, I just dont show it on most designs
So glad you like it!
Little spin video
WOW FB sucks. I will get better later
Name suggestions for the new top?
Nate McFarlane How about “Iris”?
It combines the flower idea you originally had (orchid) with with the fact that it also looks like an eye.
Sparks- Started shipping today.
Triskelions- I have three material combo’s. Two are standard and will be sold together and one is exotic which will be sold by itself. The standards will be sold 9/12 and the exotic at a later date. I will be posting pics and vids up today of the standards.
Iris- This is the name of the new top. The sales of this top will be different as I have a bunch of special materials coming for it but it will take almost 2 months for all of it to get here. The special materials I am ‘hoping” to get are:
-Special Timascus Patterns
The carboquartz is ordered and AKS is testing some new patterns but I will not know for sure for a while yet.
I plan on selling these Matrix style but I will not be able to provide as detailed of a chart without the materials being here. I plan on releasing the 1st Iris combo within the next two weeks. Prices will be similar to the K2 ($150 plus shipping for standard materials). Exotics will be slightly more depending on how they are arranged as the inner disc is quite tall and requires a lot of material.
I will post more as I get more info. At this time, this is all I know. Thanks all!!
Some outside shots of the Thrust. That is black timascus in case anyone was wondering.
Video uploading now!
Carboquartz! Quite the crazy stuff but nooooooot cheap. Used in high end watches and knives
Yup, it’s on the lighter side
I would guess a smidge lighter than Ti
You all can thank Patrick Olsen for the tip on this material! Never would have happened without him!
Jim Skelton As you can see from the stickers on my two pieces, it’s extremely expensive. James from CarboQuartz spent nearly a year negotiating to be able to buy and use this material. Until this, it only existed in the watch industry because it’s made exclusively for Richard Mille. They make cases from it on watches that cost $130,000+. Only one autoclave in the world is making it.
Here’s the breakdown:
TPT, which stands for thin ply technology, is a method for making ultra-thin unidirectional strand sheets of carbon fibers. The sheets aren’t just fibers however, they are “tapes” that are pre-impregnated (“prepreg”) with resin for more accurate and controllable application in use.
The resin is the material that works like a glue to hold the carbon fibers together; when placed under heat and pressure the resin flows between all the fibers and finally hardens to create the solid carbon fiber material we are familiar with.
The TPT carbon tapes used in Richard Mille cases have layers that are, on average, around 45 microns thin, or just under two-thousandths of an inch (.002”). Moving on to TPT Quartz, the construction is the same, only it is composed not of carbon fibers, but of fused quartz fibers. These fibers start out life as purified ground quartz crystals. These crystals are fused with heat and pressure to create fused quartz rods. These rods are then drawn (pulled and squished) under an oxy-hydrogen flame to create extremely long continuous fibers of fused quartz.
North Thin Ply Technologies developed the TPT Quartz in collaboration with Saint-Gobain Quartz, who supplied the Quartzel™ 9- or 4-micron quartz fiber filament (which is thinner than human hair); Reichhold, suppliers of ADVALITE™, a monomer-free vinyl hybrid resin; and, of course, Richard Mille, who led design and validation for the new process. The result was the world’s first thin-ply quartz fiber prepreg material, which immediately won the JEC World 2016 Innovation Award.
Billetspin Thrust video!
I have learned a few very interesting things from making tops. If it was up to me I wouldn’t name any of them but people really care about the names. Never really understood that and that is probably why I suck at naming them 😛
I wish I could make a chart. If you have a specific material you might be interested in, I can guess at what the combo will be but don’t hold me to it
I have to do some math. This combo would be around $250
My bad, there is a top already named Iris so I am switching it to Thrust. I will change it is all the other places, sorry for the inconvenience!
I will refer to it as Thrust so everyone knows which top I am talking about but you all can refer to it with any name you like! 🙂
Official Thrust information post:
-carbide bearing ball
-spin times of 6-10 minutes
-3 piece top
(TUNGSTEN WILL NOT BE USED ON THE THRUST)
The first combo sold will be SS/black timascus/SS. It will be sold at www.billetSPIN.com on 9/14 at noon central. Price will be $275 plus shipping. The SS will be polished as seen in the pictures below!
We will try to have DHL as an option for international shipping. It would be $35 but provide full tracking, delivery to your door and 7 day max delivery. USPS will still be an option for $15 international. Domestic will be $5 and shipped USPS.
The Thrust will be sold like the Matrix in that we sell a new material combo once a week or so. Once the sale is over, we never offer that combo again. Due to the fact we don’t have many of the materials yet, I cannot make a chart but here is a ROUGH combo list! This list is subject to CHANGE! I don’t have pricing at this point other than standard combo’s will be $150 plus shipping.
1) SS/Black Timascus/SS
2) Polished SS/polished SS/polished SS
3) Flamed VF mokume/polished Copper/machined finish Bronze
5) Polished and flamed damasteel/titanium/blue electro anodized titanium
7) Timascus/twist Damascus/titanium
9) Blurple electro anodized titanium/spiro dammy/polished SS
11) Polished and flamed Zirc/ polished 3 color mokume/copper
14) Polished and flamed Timascus/polished and flamed zirc/polished and flamed zirc
16) Polished flamed zirc/carboquartz/polished flamed zirc
17) Polished SS/Superconductor/Copper
Here is an overview of the Thrust!
Superconductor is ordered for the inner disc of the Thrust. Oh an not just one filament pattern either 🙂
Some damasteel for the outer collar just showed up. We will try flaming this like we did on the matrix.
We also just got news we might be getting some very special SS Damascus in.
You will definitely get to see some crazy materials for this top!!
Rare Timascus pattern. I have had this bar for a while now and made a Matrix from it but think this is a good top to use the rest of the bar on. This is not the special stuff I had mentioned before, that is not here yet! Fun stuff
it is a pattern you have not seen before. Looks like a huge plus sign
Got questions? Let’s talk(click to watch in FB)
I probably don’t do this enough but I think I am going to make myself my own one off top tomorrow. Really digging this design.
Damasteel/black Timascus/zirc sounds cool
Just for me to keep
Just playing with some 3 color mokume
this is a very light bead blast finish. Really love how it brings out the contrast!
I am thinking this with a machine finished stem. Thoughts?
just looking for feedback
good or bad
Having fun now! This wont be an option as I think it is too much -mascus but we are getting close!
finishing mine now! This will be awesome
My personal Thrust!
Thrust combo suggestions. One suggestion per person. I don’t have everything but I will have a lot. So here is how this is going to work, I will be shutting comments off for this post once we got a decent amount of suggestions. The combo that is actually possible to make, that has the most likes will get made.
Too many materials for me to list but DO NOT use Tungsten as your suggestion as it won’t happen and will just cause someone else to lose a spot.
List top materials from outer to inner
ok, looks like Black Timascus/Flamed Copper/Zirc is the winner. I do not have black timascus for the outer and not sure I can get it. If not, Zirc/black Timascus/Zirc but I dont have any black timascus for the inner. I will see waht I can do and keep you all posted!
Which would spin longer, brass Spark or solid Tungsten Spark?
I have talked about this a lot to try to educate. Well I made 2 tungsten Sparks and guess what?! The brass spins longer. Why? Well because the grip diameter is made for the weight of brass/SS/copper and not Tungsten. I am averaging 30 seconds more on the brass. This effect would be magnified on the Thrust as it is a much bigger top. Just thought some of you would find it interesting. I made these tops as I was contacted by a teacher that wanted to show this to his students. Not for sale
Due to the fact there will not be a chart, I plan on taking pics of some combo’s so you can get an idea of what the different materials look like on the various components. Here are a few for you to enjoy. Please keep in mind, these are proto’s. This means the finishes and colors should be as good or better in the actual final versions. Hope that makes sense!
Thrust update 🙂
This is on its way…and others…
that is not basketweave. Close but different
this stuff is brand new so not sure if it has names
super fine 2 alloy twist is one of the other ones coming
Please read: I apologize. When we try new things, unexpected circumstances arise. The cost of these new Timascus patterns are substantially more than the standard patterns. Due to this, I will not be ordering as much so the combos that use it will be much much more limited in order to help justify the added cost.
I will try to get more of the standard patterns so it is more attainable to the masses.
I apologize. This happens when I try to keep everyone posted and I jumped the gun on this one. I hope you understand!
All polished SS 🙂 combo #2!
Got some Black Timascus that is a little out of balance so I am going to use them as top/sphere stands instead.
These will be $50 plus shipping and sold on the website during tomorrow launch. Looks like I will have about 25 of them
Who is ready for tomorrow…
Sneak peek at combo #3 of the Thrust. Bead blasted 3 color mokume/glow/SS. $250 plus shipping sold on www.billetspin.com at a soon to be announced date and time. Let me know if you have any questions.
this one is dead smooth. I don’t foresee an issue with it at all but you never know until we get more into it
I was on there RIGHT at noon and still did not get one post. WHY ON EARTH did you not make more Rich??!! This is not fair etc.
If this is you, this post is for you. My only excuse is I did make all the material I had. I appreciate your interest in BilletSPIN and there will be a lot of other cool combos! Have a great day,
here we go!!
tops almost gone
SOLD OUT, THANK YOU! Great way to start off this design!! We will begin shipping right away!! You rock. I will continue to proto the new combo’s and try to get as many pics as possible. So much to do and so little time
We are going to do something new for #2 all SS. I am going to do 5 all SS with varying finishes on the components. Flaming will definitely not be happening as I am getting away from flamed SS due to issues. I will hopefully have all 5 versions tonight.
All #1 tops and stands have shipped 🙂 We are not messing around!!
Well not going to get all the #2 protos done tonight. Daughter is not feeling good so I got to stay home and hang out with her. Sorry! Tomorrow, I promise
SS versions are done. There are 4 total. Pics coming later. Did a few other combos as well.
The 4 horsemen. All SS with varying finishes. These will all $150 each plus shipping and sold on 9/19 at www.billetspin.com at noon central. Limited quantities and once gone, they will never be offered again!
Please reply with your favorite. 1-4 left to right
1 has wire wheel finish and blasted finish as does 2. 3 is polished and 4 is buffed outer with machine finish on the rest
more pics of random combos. These are just so you can see what these materials look like!
Some more standard material combos
Notice the two different finishes on the copper inners
Quick live video to talk about #2…(click to view in FB)
Good morning you beautiful people
SS Thrust Combo #1 Wire wheel finish outer/Bead blasted inner with machined finish stem. Ball side has machine finished outer and bead blasted stem.
SS Thrust Combo #2 Bead blasted outer/wire wheel finish inner with bead blasted stem. Ball side has bead blasted outer and machine finish stem
SS Thrust Combo #3 polished finish on all components, front and back
SS Thrust Combo #4 Buffed finish on outside of outer collar, all other surfaces are machine finish
BilletSPIN Thrust all Stainless Steel versions are launching this Tuesday (9/19) at noon central on www.billetspin.com in limited quantities. There will be four different models with varying finishes.
-Combo #1 Wire wheel finish outer/Bead blasted inner with machined finish stem. Ball side has machine finished outer and bead blasted stem
-Combo #2 Bead blasted outer/wire wheel finish inner with bead blasted stem. Ball side has bead blasted outer and machine finish stem
-Combo #3 polished finish on all components, front and back
-Combo #4 Buffed finish on outside of outer collar, all other surfaces are machine finish
Each combo is $150 plus $5 domestic and $15 international ($35 DHL optional with 7 day delivery for international buyers). These will begin shipping on 9/21.
-1.24″ in diameter
-1/8″ carbide bearing ball
-no limit on how many you can buy
#2 Thrust will start shipping on Thursday! International peeps dont forget that sweet DHL shipping option we added!
SOLD OUT!! Yowza!! Yooze are just to freaking awesome. THANK YOU for the amazing support. Just awesome. We will get crack-a-lackin on finishing these right away! Cant wait to see which was the most popular!
Ok, I hear talk of cart sniping. As far as I know, all 4 were open for 12 minutes. If that was not the case for you, comment below. I will sell you what you wanted. Just respond below with what you wanted to order and Rich N Sue Stadler will contact you tomorrow for payment and shipping info. I apologize for any issues and once again, thanks for the support.
Please just keep this to those that missed out due to the glitch
I will let our following pick #4!
BilletSPIN Thrust Combo #3 Bead Blasted 3 color Mokume/Glow/Machined finish Stainless Steel! $250 plus shipping. Going live on www.billetspin.comon 9/26 at noon central. Could take up to 10 days to ship as we are waiting on more glow material.
-1/8″ carbide bearing ball
BilletSPIN Thrust Combo #4 Bluetongue damasteel/Anodized Titanium/wire wheel finish titanium stem with anodized ball side. $290 plus shipping. Going live on www.billetspin.com on 9/29 at noon central. Shipping will begin on October 2nd.
-1/8″ carbide bearing ball
So all of combo #2 have shipped and we are set for the #3 release tomorrow. We should have all of those shipped this week! #4 will be released on Friday and those should be shipped early next week!
Best of luck to you all, if you did not get one or got cart sniped, this post is for you.
Well looks like it was a good idea to get more glow in! We are dwindling now so if you want a #3 Thrust, now is the time. I am heading to lunch, thank you for the amazing support! These will start shipping tomorrow!!
Here it is 🙂 The video for #4 Damasteel/Titanium/Titanium $290 plus shipping 9/29 www.billetspin.com noon central limited quantities
GAW time, I got a one off Thrust. To win it you just need to share this project and reply to this post with where you shared it. Each social media outlet or website/forum counts as one entry. This is a very cool project so let’s help get the word out! I will end this next week and draw the winner then
This damasteel top is giving me fits. BRUTAL! Wish me luck, this top making stuff is not as easy as it looks!!
Has to be in the material, we have everything dead true. We can run a standard and its DT smooth. Not good
Getting 40% good right now
unfortunately this one can’t be solved without balancing material. I guess I will make stands from the bad ones at a later date. The issue is there will not be many of these available tomorrow now. I could honestly vomit.
37 good out of 115. I have no words right now. Sick just does not describe it
You want feel my pain? (click to view in FB)
Good morning you all! Quick update, #4 is done and over. We will be attempting to save the wobbly outers but no plans as of yet.
I have the #5 Thrust in two different bronze/copper/bronze finish variations. We will be offering these on Wednesday in limited quantities. We will also be selling some spin bases and the Zirc/timascus Triskelion.
www.billetspin.com at noon central.
I will be doing a video for them today and they spin fantastic 😀
Should Aaron Jordan be able to pick the Super Conductor Thrust combo?
For fun I am going to leave up the add your own options. Keep it clean 😛
Official info post about October 4th release! Here is what will be going up for sale on www.billetspin.com at noon central:
-Gen 2 and 3 spin bases in Green, amber, blue and white $90
-Bronze/copper/bronze Thrusts in 2 finish variations $150
-Zirc/timascus/zirc Triskelions $300
-Zirc/Zirc/polished SS Matrix $350
Shipping will be $5 domestic and $15 international USPS or $35 DHL
Please watch video first!!!!!
I can use the superconductor to somewhat balance the damasteel. It will still flutter but will be much better than superconductor in a regular combo. This inner disc shape is different to show off the superconductor more. I will only use this shape when I use a superconductor inner disc. Thoughts?
Hmmmm 😀 Thoughts?
PLEASE READ!! If you are planning on getting in on today’s noon central release, remember that the item/items are NOT yours until you complete checkout. Having them in your cart does NOT mean they are yours. All of the items today are limited so factor that in. Best of luck, let me know if you have any questions and have a great day!!
yooze got 7 minutes to prepare yourselves.
Zirc/timascus Triskelions still available along with green spin bases Gen 3. Everything else is sold out! THANK YOU ALL!!
Thrust update post. So I am trying to come up with a list but it is just impossible with the material logistics. Some materials are not here, getting pushed back or have some issues. Making others in advance is causing issues from patina. I will do my best to keep you all in the loop but as of right now the only ones I know for sure are the damasteel/Superconductor/SS and SS/Cu/SS. Those are the next two in either order. After that, I have no idea. I apologize for that but I just don’t see any way to create a list with this many variables. Thanks for your patience!
The standard material combo’s on the original list will happen, just dont know when. I am 99% sure of that
Just a heads up, SS/Cu/SS will be the next combo of the Thrust and will be released on Thursday of this week, noon central. Three variations, limited quantities. 2 will be $150 and the other will be $160. Shipping will be extra. Sold on www.billetspin.com. I will do pics and a video later today. Reid Branston
The combo after that will be damasteel/superconductor/SS in 2 variations. They will go up on www.billetspin.com on 10/16 at noon central. I will get pics and a vid up this coming friday of those. Price will be $325 plus shipping. Expect these to have a flutter to light wobble. They spin much better than I expected but I have balanced each one to the best of my abilities but are not perfect. These will be limited as well.
Here is the video of the SS/cu/SS Thrusts!
More pics of tomorrow combo’s! Reid Branston
25 of each being sold
They are all made so shipping will be fast