January 2018 News

I am not sure if I ever shared this but this was an invention I came up with in 2007. It did well but just took too much time with my day job so I stopped makig it in 2010


Sue Stadler Trying to figure out an idea for another BilletSPIN get-together. Sooooo…sell me on your area and give me some good ideas.

Official Pandora Info and Combos

Wave #1
Release on 1/16 at noon central

Wave #1

#1 Cu/Cu/SS/Cu

#2 SS/SS/Cu/Br

#3 Br/SS/Br/SS

#4 SS/Cu/SS/Cu

Wave #2
Release on 1/26 at noon central

#5 All SS

#6 Br/Cu/SS/Br

#7 SS/SS/Br/SS

#8 Cu/Cu/Br/Cu

Wave #3
Release on 2/2 at noon central

#9 Br/Br/SS/Cu
#10 Br/Br/SS/Br
#11 SS/SS/Cu/SS
#12 Cu/SS/Cu/SS

Wave #4
Release on 2/13 at noon central

#13 Br/Cu/Br/Cu
#14 SS/Cu/Br/SS
#15 SS/Br/SS/Br
#16 Cu/Br/Cu/Br

People’s Choice
#17 SS/Br/Cu/SS
Release on 2/17 at noon central

Top Case

Quick and easy question… When looking for storage and carry cases for your tops, what size do you look for? Plus, are there things that make one case better than another? Thanks for the info. -Sue-


Top case prototype. Any feedback would be appreciated!


BilletSPIN case update. Price came in higher than expected. We will be selling these for $45 plus shipping. We expect them to be up on the website around 12/12. I will have more details with pics and a video before then. Thanks!

Sue Stadler It is extremely durable, has clasping locks and can be locked with a padlock. Will be a deal for what you will be getting.

Rich Stadler plus each case will come with love…our love and who can put a price on that


BilletSPIN Carrying Case

Will hold 30 tops (1.25″ and smaller). Larger tops would have to be stored next to smaller tops. Case is made in USA.

Sold on www.billetspin.com at noon central on 1/16


Shipping is $15 domestic and $60 DHL International

Jason Maker Do you expect these to sell out quickly?

no idea, we have never sold cases before. My gut tells me it will take a while, maybe a week


BilletSPIN Carrying Case for tops. Made in USA and will hold 30 (1.25″ diameter) tops. Dimensions are 11″ x 10″ x 5″. Has two locks and two holes for padlocks. It is also waterproof.

Going live on www.billetspin.com on 1/16 at noon central.

$48 plus $15 domestic and $60 DHL International


BilletSPIN Carrying Case for tops. Made in USA and will hold 30 (1.25″ diameter) tops. Dimensions are 11″ x 10″ x 5″. Has two locks and two holes for padlocks. It is also waterproof.

Going live on www.billetspin.com on 1/16 at noon central.

$48 plus $15 domestic and $60 DHL International


BilletSPIN Cases will be on the Accessories page! Pandora will be on the Tops page! If you are ordering a case, please select the correct shipping option for the case. Thanks all!

Top #41 “Pandora”


Hopefully I start the new design late today!! This new design will not go up for sale until next year. I am pumped, this ones going to be crazy. Lots of pieces, tons of machining and…big. I will post some teaser pics occasionally throughout the remainder of the year. Wish me luck  🙂

Don’t be offended if I don’t answer any questions about this new top…  🙂


We have not done much but not being able to take certain teaser pics is killing me. This part needs to be hidden as I don’t want you to know how I made this certain feature. I will make a GAW later for whoever can guess. Just know we have the 1st operation about 40% set-up and it looks cool


folks, here comes set-up #3 and this is where the real magic happens on this top. I always get excited when things start coming to life but this is sooooooooo different than anything else that I just can’t hardly contain myself. If everything goes well I will be able to post a excruciating teaser pic for you. Hopefully you can get as excited about this design as I am after that. Going to be a fun day hopefully!

Its a balancing act. Do I just unleash on this thing or make the most of a $250 price point. The writing is on the wall already. Cycle time is massive but this one has sooooooooooo much insane potential. I might have to do different levels of this one to accommodate all. I just really want to go nuts


This thing is evolving. It’s nothing like what I had originally planned already. I am liking the direction it is taking. If today goes well I might be able to post a teaser but don’t bet on it.

Here is the way this works, I get a rough proto done with no real detail. The proto proves out the assembly and ratio’s. Then I continue to make boring prototypes to get the assembly and ratios correct. Next I start adding detail to each component to make it look cool.

As of this moment, I am on set-up 5 out of 8 to make the original prototype. I can see the possibilities but pics at this point are hard because you won’t see what I do and it will be disappointing for you. BUT with that said, I have a creative idea to tease the crap out of you with pics. You will hate me by the time this design is complete lol.

can you tell I am having fun

plus I like making new posts so Cami Lewis thinks it might be the pics she is waiting for lol

trust me, it is just as excruciating for me. I want to see this come to life so bad. Been on this design for months

so some might wonder how I can be on here when I should be out at the machine. Well great question! At this moment I gave my son instructions to prep the machine for set-up #5. He is getting the tools in, telling the machine what kind of tools they areand “touching them off” on a sensor so the machine knows exactly where the tip of each one is located. Once he is done with that we start making the program. It has taken a few hours just to get this certain component chucked up in the machine. By “chucked up” it means the machine is holding onto it.

Since I have a little time while my son is getting tools in the machine let me share some random thoughts. As a maker, I seem to have found my style. I like certain features. I like spikes, fangs, dimples and see thru “rim style” components. Many of my previous designs have used these elements. I don’t see getting away from this style so people could accuse me of making a frankentop by just repeating similar elements.

This top is definitely different. My fear is that only those with machining experience will really be able to appreciate the work that went into this one. In this top it is not about what you can see, it is about what you can’t see. Similar to the 4 metal and PBC in that aspect. So yes, it will have sharp things that can draw blood. It will also have so many features it will take you a while to really see all of them. The current design will have a claw style ball set similar to the pro but that could change.

Just a bunch of random junk going thru my mind. I can’t multitask very well and my mind is focused on the top. I will be useless for a while lol.

the bottom of this one will be the most insane of any top I have made if this works like I am hoping

yup, I like it

the assembly of the hardest part is proven. The hard part of the prototype is over. Still a lot of operations to go but should be pretty smooth sailing now


This thing is eating away at my brain and sanity lol. It is like endless tweaking but we are making progress. I got one big component to make yet today hopefully. If all goes well, the only thing left to make after today is the stem. This is for the proto though so there will still be an insane amount of tweaking to get the final version. So far so good, I am very pleased with how it is looking.

I was not planning on revealing this much. Keep in mind, this has a LONG ways to go so please don’t make me regret giving you a little tease  🙂

Tomorrow’s project is the bottom. My original plan did not look as good as I wanted. What you see is not at all what the bottom will look like other than the claw.

Randy Gleckler Rich…..I was thinking you were doing something like this for “claw ball”. So disappointing. Lol j/k

honestly that is what I had pictured for the original claw. I tried it but it would not hold the ball well enough due to abuse.


Now we are getting somewhere…  🙂


another proto just closer to the finish design. More changes have already been made. It is a beast  😛

Quick potato vid

its going to have a stem

took a few hours of pondering last night to come up with the bottom

No to interchangeable stems. Not sure on combos. Got to finish the design first

Back to work! So far so good today! Have a good one all

Made great progress today. This one is pretty photogenic  🙂 I start on the stem tomorrow!

Ben Pose Red, see trough ruby ball!

I agree if you dont plan on spinning it

Joaquin A. Ortiz Is the bearing ball the same size from BS Pro?

yes sir!

I get that a lot when I post pics of new designs without the stem. THen once the stem is in nobody wants stemless anymore. This one is quite tall for a stemless

Don’t everyone get too excited yet. The cycle time on these is atrocious. I ordered a bunch of tooling today to try to optimize the best I can but they are just going to take a very long time to make. Like a LONG time. This is an absurd amount of machining and a lot of components. I am not sure how I will handle sales. Once optimizing is done I will come up with a plan. Complicated is awesome and I would have it no other way but it comes with a price.

This top has 9 operations. Yes, 9. I got 4 machines. But man, its so freaking cool lol.

Edit: just so this hits home with you all, I could make about 4 K2’s in the time it takes to make one of these. I am guessing price will be $300 and I did and am doing all I can to keep the price down without sacrificing too much.

All SS. it will be an option for sure

This one was 80% art focused. I wanted to take it even farther but I already bit off more than I could chew.

It’s Machine time. I don’t want this design to take 5 months

5 with the stem tentatively

Optimizing is about reducing the cycle time of the machining

ok all, how many pcs is the proto so far and what does it look like inside? First person to get it all right will win a congrats from me and depending on my mood, something tangible. Going to need a sketch to win and the ball does not count as a piece


Well I am glad this is not to obvious! Makes all the time I spent designing it worth while

supper time, I will check in later

David Goldman

David Goldman Top down is SS, SS, Cu, SS, Ball. Both the SS and Cu are pressure fit against the inner wall of the top SS, kinda like how the PBC. Cu ring shown between top and bottom shells (aesthetics). Bottom Cu fits inside the bottom shell. Not shown, there are likely cutouts on the Cu piece, kinda like the SS piece above it, to line it up with the SS piece below. The stem will connect into the SS piece above the Cu.

I am going to give the congrats to David Goldman. Maybe someone else got close and I missed it due to communication but he drew it out pretty accurately


The stem design has begun. Sucks tearing down a machine to do it but we need to bring this thing to life!!!!

Willy Demis What does that mean? Chuck replaced with collet closer and bar feeder?

No, different jaws, tooling and filler tube and material

Well folks, it is done. I am so happy with this design. It has done everything I wanted it to do. I have to go home and get pics for you. I am beyond excited right now. THANK YOU for your support and encouragement to do a project like this. I sincerely hope you are as excited as I am once you see pics. This is a great day. Due to the intricacies hidden inside of this top, its name shall be Pandora. I will talk more about the guts of the top in a future video.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you…Pandora! We chose this name due to the intricate machining hidden in the core of the top. This new top from BilletSPIN is made from five pieces (not counting bearing ball) and measures 1.37″ in diameter. This SS/Cu combo weighs in at 84g. It features a 5/16″ carbide bearing ball for a contact point. The contact point can be replaced on this model! Price will be $300 plus shipping on standard material combinations. The release date will be mid-end of January.

Pandora spin video. It spins crazy good lol. I was not expecting that at all. Super easy to launch and stabilizes well!!

I am exhausted let’s talk(click to view in FB)

Family time with Pandora

Pandora vid. Check this one out  🙂


Important Pandora update: Due to the nightmare of making the Pandora from timascus, I have only made two and those are for the people that we screwed up the shipping on the Omega top. So the Pandora will only be SS, Copper and Bronze combo’s. No zirc, timascus, SC, tungsten etc. I will keep you all posted on when these will go live but tentatively plan on mid-end of January. Thanks!

Really just want this design to showcase the machining

Bradley Turner Is it possible to flame half the SS components so you still get the contrast?

Not with this assembly. The all SS will just have an all machined finish

Working on the combos now. Hopefully know by end of next week

Just for you all, man the things I let you talk me into… 7-9 minutes Spin times

Oh and that’s on a hardened ball because my carbide is not here yet

This thing is a blast to spin


AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH carbide bearing contact point (lol) will not be here until next week  🙁

A little progress but a ways to go!


there are 3 tri-metals in that vid

much much much better pics coming next week of all of them!

Whatever is there is what the combos are. There are so many possibilities but these were what I liked best

it’s like anything, I would have to make 500 to appease everyone and that’s just not possible. The video will show these much better next week and I hope I did good on the pics

the problem is the amount of machining. Zirc cuts much more difficult and I don’t have a parts catcher on one of the machines. Due to that I have to do a tiny bit of machining with no coolant and had a huge fire from the zirc chips. So definitely no zirc on this one

I will tell you there is one combo that is by far the best imo. I will talk about it more in the next video

You will see a breakdown video next week!

Thanks all! I wish I could make every possible combo but keeping it to these 13 will allow us to make more and give everyone a better chance to get one. It will also make this less confusing for us to manufacture and trust me on this one we need all the help we can get. I am looking forward to the assembly process video

Steven Davila Which combo is the sturdiest, for the less graceful among us?

Bronze and SS are pretty durable

There is going to be 15 combos. I need to make two with SS outers and a SS stem for those non-patina folks.

But that’s it  😛


Been spinning this thing all day lol


Just chillin is sub zero temps


Pandora update: I should get the Carbide bearing balls in today or tomorrow. I will finish up the other combo’s tomorrow or Friday. I should have pics release date and release schedule by Monday.

I will tell you this much, I am going to release these in waves and more than likely 4 combo’s per wave. This will allow us to ship right away and not sit on inventory and will allow you to receive them faster after you paid. I don’t have all the details down yet as we just have to see how many I can make first. I appreciate your excitement and patience!

Thanks to a couple amazing people, I found a good supplier with them in stock and a better grade! They will be here next week so fingers crossed!


Pandora update: We should be good to go with the big contact points! This is a huge relief. I am working on all the combo’s now and the goal is to have pics up this week.

As of now, I am planning the first wave release to be 1/16 at noon central on www.billetspin.com in limited quantities. We will hopefully have 4 of the 16 combo’s available for $300 each plus shipping.

I will know more by weeks end. Thanks for your patience and have a great day!!

The How it’s made video is uploading…

It’s up

Here it is all, the How it’s made video of the Pandora!

Willy Demis I don’t know if you want to go down this path, but I’ll admit to two things: 1) I’m completely ignorant about CNC machining, and 2) I recognize this is apparently a pretty common misconception.

That said: are you able to shed just a little light on holding tolerances?? As a hobby machinist using a manual lathe- I know exactly what that means for my manual equipment where I physically touch the dials. But if you tell your craaaaaaaazy expensive CNC lathe/mill to remove .0001” does it not happily, and accurately comply?

I think you know by now that when I ask- no disrespect is intended; I am *genuinely* curious.  🤓 I know this question could be easily taken the wrong way.

I wish it was that easy. Tool pressure, tool wear, material variations etc are the issue. In order to hold tolerances this tight you have to make adjustments on nearly every part. It takes a very skilled operator with a very good setup to accomplish it in a timely manner. I could go much farther in detail if need be

One easy example is if I have a copper stem running at .44000 and put in bronze it will cut around .44060 just due to tool pressure from the material variation.

every fit has to be within .0005” OD to ID. That’s holding a .00025 tolerance on each piece unless you plan on fitting each part which we don’t. We strive to make all parts universal to each top. That’s not always the case but that’s what we try to hold.

George J Schaefer this may be a dumb question, but in the end, what keeps it together? Is it just the super tight tolerances? Or is there a weld done on the Stem from the inside? I know that may throw off the balance

It’s a couple of things and to be 100% honest it took me a very long time to refine these techniques. I don’t like to share that particular info.  🙁


Pandora questions or comments? I got a little time(click to watch in FB)

The contact points are here. I just have to clean them and run home for the vid and pics! Should have it all tonight!

Pandora Wave #1 to be released on 1/16 noon central www.billetspin.com

Wave #2 date TBD

Wave #3 Date TBD

Wave #4 date TBD

That is all 16 combo’s. I might do one more of my choosing but I doubt it. Let me know if you have any questions!


All 16 Pandora combo’s!

No exotics

I am just really really excited


Going to be doing individual pics and a vid of Wave #1. Anything in particular you want to see? I should have it all done this afternoon

Pandora Wave #1! Available on www.billetspin.com January 16th at noon central. $300 each plus shipping.

Russell McKelvey I know this is subjective, and you may not have spun them all nearly enough, but any insight on which of the combos you think spins the “best” (not the longest)? Thanks for making so many combos available!

I could not tell any difference but my guess is any with copper prongs holding the ball will spin a microscopic amount better than the rest


Thanks to Alex Bueno, there are 81 possible Pandora combo’s if the outer collars are made from the same material (243 if they are different).

I have definitely never seen this many posts and messages asking for combo’s and I think that is because this is a special top. I love the interest and nobody would love to see all 360 more than me! Unfortunately a lot of the feedback I get contradicts itself and that is the predicament I am in. Can’t keep everyone happy, which is frustrating.

The main feedback I am following is less drug out designs which will equal more designs over the course of 2018. Doing so will limit the number of tops of each design as we can only make so many and the Pandora combo’s will all be pretty limited.

For those not getting the exact combo you wanted. I feel ya. Like I said, nobody would like to see all of them more than me. It is just not possible and I did my absolute best to give as much variety in the 16 combo’s as I could do. I hope you understand.

Have a wonderful day!



Deleted Charts, poll…watch this

Joshua Dawson One piece tops are less confusing 😜

calgon take me away lol

PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS POST: So here is my solution and your opportunity. Add your combo and vote for it. The combo with the most votes will be made as the 17th combo. There are only so many poll spots so please DO NOT add funny options as a joke!!!! Label them from out to in. SS/Br/Cu/SS for example. There are 4 pieces per top as both outer collars will be of the same material. If you want to go with 5 that is your choice but you will have to specify top and bottom. Please one suggestion per person. IF this goes bad, I will delete this poll and this option is off the table. Just trying to keep everyone happy as best as possible.
Here is a short vid explaining how the materials are designated:

Here is the official chart (THANK YOU Daryl Pritchard) less the 17th people’s choice combo!


We ready for Tuesday?


Pandora update: Due to some errors/scrap, 1.1 and 1.2 are much more limited that 1.3 and 1.4.

Also, the big contact point is very sensitive to any debris/dust on it or the spin surface. If yours has some shimmy to it, make sure you clean everything carefully. 100% of these were tested  If you got any questions, let me know!


45 minutes to my most excited release yet! I can’t wait for these to start arriving 

ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!

over 50% sold out on total qty. THANK YOU.

Well the qty survived the flood  🙂 Looks like I made enough! About 70% total qty sold as of right now. YOOZE ARE AMAZING!! Thanks again!!!!!

this was better than I had anticipated. That happens often in the group  🙂 I really did not want to start off the design with a super fast sell out so I tried to make enough. One of the combo’s has plenty left but the other three are down there. Good stuff

Ok all, I am heading home to work on pics and a vid for wave 2. Thanks again, it means more to me than you know. Have a wonderful afternoon!


Pandora Wave #2! Going live on www.billetspin.com on January 26th noon central! $300 plus shipping


Sue Stadler All shipping is completed! PLEASE, as a courtesy to me, if you have any concerns, questions or issues with the shipping or the tops – contact me first. If I need to get Rich involved, I easily can, but most issues I end up dealing with anyway. Sometimes things can get lost in the “translation” from him to me so it’s best if you contact me directly. You can PM me or email BilletSPIN@tds.net. Looking forward to the happy and excited pics of the Pandora! Don’t let me down! First person who’s (whom’s?) top I shipped out TODAY that posts a pic will win a free Thrust of my choosing.

K9 Crystal Top Stands


Folks I got a gift today that is just amazing. I can’t wait to post pics of it tomorrow!! I think yooze are going to want to get one (or a hundred) of these. Absolutely stunning

Brace yourselves, you are about to see him post a pic of it (them)

This is insane

Just wait 🙂 I am so pumped! I have no ties with this product but it’s a must have

Ok all check this out! See the replies for more pics! These are just amazing!!! I have no ties with the guy that makes these but I would love to sell them on the billetspin site but it would probably be easiest to buy direct from him. I will give you more details as I get them!


BilletSPIN K9 Crystal Top Stands with spin base on bottom. 2 variations, one with BilletSPIN logo and one without. Coming to www.billetspin.com on 12/14 noon central. $30 plus $5 domestic and $15 international ($35 DHL optional).


BilletSPIN Top Stands go live on www.billetspin.com in 30 minutes!!

its a bit more concave than I would like but still usable

December 2017 News

Wow, sounds like everything sold out!! You all rock!! Thanks for the support! We made it to Orlando in one piece and survived the 50 kids on the plane going to Disney. Hope you all have a great weekend!!

Tell me again why we live in Wisconsin?

Dang what a fun night. Thank you all for taking time to hang out with us. It meant a lot to Sue and I. So nice to put faces to names. I doubt I will have a voice tomorrow but so worth it. What an amazing community. I wish you all save travels back home and a wonderful weekend!


Hello from Jamaica!


Ok all, post a pic of your favorite BilletSPIN design/combo of 2017! You don’t have to own it.


Merry Christmas all you wonderful people. It’s been a great year getting to know you more and getting to meet some new people as BilletSPIN continues to grow. As most of you know, Sue and I are people of Faith and Christmas to us is about the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I know not everyone shares our beliefs and that’s ok. I just want you to know we care about each and every one of you and if you ever want to talk about faith, or are just going through a hard time, we are there for you.

This community is about so much more than just selling tops and Sue and I talk all the time about you all. Thank you for making this group what it is and thank you for your friendships.

From the bottom of Sue’s and my heart, have a Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays.

Rich and Sue Stadler

Welcome Jon Sauer! For those that don’t know, Jon is a legend and it’s an honor to have him in the group!


Going to bed, we’re rockstars…See ya next year! Love you all

November 2017 News

I got a favor to ask! Can anyone that has won a top from BilletSPIN please respond. Could be an gaw, SUS, scavenger hunt etc. Please only respond if you have been one of those people. Normally I love joking around but this is not one of those times. If you don’t want to reply, I understand. If you have and are ok with responding, reply “yes”. I just want to see how many people total have won tops from BilletSPIN. I know, weird but I really appreciate it!

Thank you all, I really appreciate you sharing!!


Well I have not had to do one of these in a very long time. Unfortunately it is needed since there are some people in the top community that feel the need to create drama and negativity. This is not present in this group and for that, I thank you all soooooo much. Folks we have enough garbage in our lives so I try my hardest to keep that stuff out as I know none of you want that. We come here to share this wonderful passion for this hobby we all love. We also hear of people going through hard times or struggles and we try to encourage and uplift them. That is what “community” is all about.

My advice to all: if you are part of a group that seems to have a lot of drama and negativity and it gets to you, leave. Sooner or later you will be affected. Focus on the things and places that bring you joy, after all that is what a hobby should do. I have left many of groups due to this reason and out of sight, out of mind is a very wonderful thing.

Just know that the extreme majority of people in this community are wonderful caring people.

With this said, if there is anything we at BilletSPIN do that upsets you or you don’t understand, message me. I will do my best to explain it. If at that point you are still upset, feel free to post it to get others opinions. I am no perfect and make my share of mistakes. Constructive feedback has molded BilletSPIN into what it is today. My request is that you come to me first to understand my reasons.

I know that this post in of itself is drama but with some of the things going on lately and the overwhelming number of messages I have had this weekend I thought I better say something. If you are reading this and have no idea what I am talking about, you are doing it right 🙂

SO, today is a new day! Lets make it awesome. Lets finish this year focusing on what got you into tops and the love you have for them. Lets remember all the good this community has and the amazing things we have accomplished together as a family.

Have a great week,

We are very close on Billetspin first carrying cases and those crystal Top stands I posted a few weeks ago! Got the dammy Thrusts tomorrow and the wheels are working on future stuff  🙂 tomorrow I start on Brian’s sight unseen auction top and then the special GTG combo. After a long weekend, things are rollin!! Yooze all have a wonderful night and just know things are gettin crazy up in here!


BilletSPIN Tops Update:

Couple of my main goals for 2017 was to offer more exotic materials and to offer different finishing. It seemed like a great plan and it sure was a great learning experience. There were unforeseen consequences though which have made me reconsider these goals for 2018.

BilletSPIN’s mantra back in 2015 was to make the coolest tops we could out of standard materials. That allowed us to focus more on design complexity rather than materials. We are going to focus more on this as we move into 2018. I LOVE exotics and we will always offer some but not nearly to the extent we currently do. I feel like my hands are tied because I try hard to keep certain price points. Exotics just cost a ton of money so the machining has to be reduced in order to keep the prices reasonable.

So what does this mean? Well I want to be totally honest here. It means that we will be upping the complexity overall to our designs to focus on machining rather than materials. Prices will be effected on those designs but will still be under the prices we have been selling the majority of the exotics for. Using standard materials will not handcuff us on quantities. This means everyone should have a great opportunity to buy these. This also means fewer designs overall with more quantities of each design.

In addition to the standard Stainless Steel, Bronze, Copper and brass, we will be using a lot of zirc and titanium. The reason is the material is easier to get in large quantities and it offer’s a ton of variety in colors we can generate. We will still be offering different finishes on all these materials.

The Thrust will finish as planned using all the materials I have posted. This change will go into effect AFTER the Thrust is retired.

Due to Sue and I going on a vacation in December, it is not looking good for a Christmas top this year. I apologize for that 🙁

THANK YOU all for your continued support of BilletSPIN. I am GREATLY looking forward to taking designing to another level. Have a wonderful day,

Rich Stadler


I wonder how many tops Billetspin has made. I really have no idea anymore but if I spent some time on it I could get pretty close. What’s your guess? Post your guesses and I will let you know who I believe is closest!

Well after some math, we are right around 23,000 tops sold. That’s a lot of tops!! I doubt there is a place in the world we have not shipped to which just shows this hobby is worldwide. It’s so cool to be a part of it. I still remember the day I found that set of dice on eBay which started me down the road to create Billetspin.

I see we had a misprint on the website, that will be addressed shortly. It should have been 10,000 at the time of that posting. Good catch!!


Everyone that attends the meet and greet will be getting a free top that will only be available by attending. I like to be upfront with everyone about stuff like this and it just our way of saying thanks for taking the time to hang out with us. If you have not signed up yet, contact Sue Stadler!


And this is where it all began. This was the first top I ever made, not design, literally the first top.

23,000 tops later…

Welcome Evyn Stadler to Billetspin. Evyn is my oldest daughter whom I am very proud of  🙂


Happy Thanksgiving all you amazing people. We all have much to be thankful for. My life is better because all of yooze are in it. Hope you have a fantastic day my friends,

Rich and Sue

October 2017 News

Billetspin gtg Florida contact Sue Stadler for more details!


Florida get-together: here’s the plan so far.
We will be staying at the Orlando Airport Marriott Lakeside. The get together would be in the evening on Dec 1st at the bar/restaurant unless we have a lot of people let me know they are going (not expecting that) where I would need to find more room. As of now I have two people who have messaged me they would be there.
I would love to meet many of you and we may have something special there too, no guarantees yet though. So I need to know whom might be there so I have a head count. I know it’s still several weeks off but I like to get things planned. If you don’t want to message me just reply “In” and I’ll know you are interested.
Thanks and happy spinning, Sue



Insomnia live vid. This is how I take pics and vids. If you are interested in the camera and lighting I use, check this out. Sorry for the quiet voice, family was sleeping.


This is just the tip of the iceberg


So these guys are taking some BilletSPIN stuff to SEMA along with their insane truck to show off. If anyone is going to the show, look them up and say hi! What an awesome gesture on their parts and a great exposure opportunity for BilletSPIN!

Folks I got a gift today that is just amazing. I can’t wait to post pics of it tomorrow!! I think yooze are going to want to get one (or a hundred) of these. Absolutely stunning

Brace yourselves, you are about to see him post a pic of it (them)

This is insane

Just wait 🙂 I am so pumped! I have no ties with this product but it’s a must have

Ok all check this out! See the replies for more pics! These are just amazing!!! I have no ties with the guy that makes these but I would love to sell them on the billetspin site but it would probably be easiest to buy direct from him. I will give you more details as I get them!


So Ella (my youngest daughter) and I wanted to go make something today and decided to make some whistles. Once we got a functional design, she tweaked them to look cooler. They are loud lol. They are not for sale, they are hers and I hope they remind her of the time we spent together today!

Proud daddy


GAW, Ella’s Prototype whistle. It will come with a COA with her signature from BilletSPIN. It is plain SS and plain as we needed to prove out the whistle before using high end materials. Anyone that contributed to one or both of Lindsey’s waffles gets two entries and everyone else gets one.
To enter just reply with a feel good picture, meme or gif. I will draw the winner tomorrow.


Ella and I will be doing a live video together tonight where she picks the winner of the whistle GAW. Lets plan on 4pm central unless Sue Stadlersays otherwise… 😛

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttsssssssssssssss Ella! GAW winner will be announced here!

September 2017 News

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Not going to lie, this was a rough one. Some days I really don’t enjoy Facebook. One thing Billetspin has taught me is that there are a lot of people in the world with the best of intentions that have differing opinions. Sometimes we forget the first part of that.

I just want to thank you all for continuing to make this group drama free. Focusing on what this group is all about and getting to know each other through this hobby. I hope you all can focus on the positives and have yourself a absolutely wonderful night.

I appreciate the messages, nothing top related, my news feed was just depressing is all. I don’t to bring that discussion here so I will just leave it at that but I am sure 99% of you had the same stuff on yours  🙁


PLEASE READ! Just a reminder (as much as I love you all) Lindsey Wissing handles all shipping and shipping related questions/issues. Rich N Sue Stadler handles all other Customer service. I (Rich Stadler) handle none of that so if you message me I wont be able to be much help. Thanks!


Turn your volume down. How do you spin?

Thrust Picture Gallery

SS/black timascus/SS



3 color mokume/Glow/SS


SS/SC/SS – 3CM/Glow/SS

Zirc/Carboquartz/Zr – Carboquartz/Zirc/Zirc

SS/Cu/Br – Br/Cu/Br

SS Thrust Combo #1 Wire wheel finish outer/Bead blasted inner with machined finish stem. Ball side has machine finished outer and bead blasted stem.

SS Thrust Combo #2 Bead blasted outer/wire wheel finish inner with bead blasted stem. Ball side has bead blasted outer and machine finish stem

SS Thrust Combo #3 polished finish on all components, front and back

SS Thrust Combo #4 Buffed finish on outside of outer collar, all other surfaces are machine finish

Bluetongue damasteel/Titanium/Titanium