Nexus Proto Sales


READ ALL INSTRUCTIONS: Used Proto. Will have flutter. 1/8″ carbide ball. 7068 aluminum and tungsten. $115 plus $5 domestic and $12 international shipping.

I am thinking of a number between 1-100. You get ONE guess. NO editing. The first person to get the exact number wins. If you guess twice you will be disqualified!!!!!!!!!! I will not even look at the guesses until 10 minutes after this is posted. At that point I will announce the winner or announce nobody has guessed it yet.

Please let’s try to keep this fun and drama free!

Congrats to Kevin Andersen 47 was correct Continue reading Nexus Proto Sales

Top #36 “Nexus”

BILLETSPIN UPDATE: The plan has changed so please read this carefully!

I started designing the 4 piece top and folks I will be totally honest, this one has potential to be one of the coolest, if not the coolest top I have ever made. I added some more pieces to it too so it will be either an 8 or 10 piece now. Some of those pieces are very basic so don’t get too excited about that. Unfortunately though, there are two issues with this top.

1) It will take a very very long time to make.
2) I don’t have enough materials to appease the masses

So, after much thought I have decided to change up the schedule to give us the time needed to do this right. The next top will now be the 2 piece long spinner.

For those that did not watch the live video I posted, my goal for this top will be for me to be able to spin it for 30 minutes. This does not mean you will be able to. In fact, some might still not be anywhere near that. Spin times vary greatly depending on skill level. This will not be a pretty top. Every feature on this top will be designed for maximum performance. I have tracked down a very rare grade of aluminum that has an off the chart strength rating. I will use that in conjunction with Tungsten. I probably will not offer this in different materials since these two will give the best performance and that is what this design is all about.

As you know, Tungsten is prone to wobble. I am using the new tungsten so it will be better but I assure you these will still have some wobble/flutter issues. These will come with the new carbide balls which will greatly reduce flat spot issues.

I am not sure on pricing or the launch date at this time. I will have to spend a great deal of time in the prototype stages. I am sure though that they will be available this month yet.

I am sorry for the switch-a-roo here on the schedule. I hope you understand. If you have any questions let me know!



Vlog #1

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Vlog #4

15 and still going good

18:55 first spin so I could easily break 20 with a few tries. Pretty good start I think!

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Vlog #7

Vlog #8 and final for today

this one is worse. Back to the original style. Had to try it

in fact, worst spinner of the day lol

barely 18 minutes, this thing sucks!

still going

got a lot of fight in it

barely rotating


I thought it was dead 2 minutes ago lol

If I did not have this party to go to I would keep at it

ok, one more design. My brain came up with a plan…

Still here two tops later  😛 This one has promise. I would bet it’s the best of the day! Wish it luck

I had the place all shut down and had my jacket on heading out the door and it hit me…

Now we just have to hope it does not suck

Complete trash, 18:03 NOW I am leaving lol. Have a good one all. I suck

Came back to work. Getting consistent 22-23 minutes now on decent spins. This is still in rough proto stage so there is more in it but not a whole lot. This top as is will see 5 minute improvement over the Tungten/Aluminum Infinity. I am confident I can squeeze another minute or two out of it. I should be able to break 25 with it personally once the tweaks are done. Wont happen every time for sure but should on a good spin. Thats all she wrote for sure now. I am taking the day off tomorrow and will be back on this project on Tuesday. Have a great night all!

I will do a full vlog about it once it is all tweaked. I found a repeatable system of change and that helped out a lot.

There was no way I could sleep with this many ideas in my head so I had to head back to work. Mind is clear now and the path is clear. Sleepy time


So tomorrow will be a dead day for me as we have to finish a few Crown tops before I get back on the long spinner. I will use that time to sell off some prototypes I made yesterday. They will be $115 plus shipping. I will try (and fail) to come up with easy ways to sell them where everyone is happy. Not sure of the exact time. Some have some nicks and most have some movement towards the end of the spin.


Vlog #9

hollow stem made ZERO difference. ZERO 🙂

Lindsey Wissing From Rich:

Gavin Sexton That bigger grip is nice

It needs it for this much weight. Same top with a .020″ smaller diameter grip tops out at 300 less RPM’s on the launch. Any bigger and the RPM’s decrease as well. It is the size it needs to be

Vlog #10


Uploaded in HD this time. Balancing idea we are working on

The official information post about this new top will happen soon. Until then suggest names for it here.

Official Information post:

The new top will be called the Nexus. I have wanted to use this name for a long time because most of our Mazak’s are Nexus models and these tops are made on them.

This will be on average, the longest spinning top in BilletSPIN history. It will launch on on 2/21 at noon central. Here is some info on the top:

-Only comes in one material combination (Tungsten/7068 aluminum)

-1/8″ carbide bearing ball (From our testing, these will be a significant improvement over ceramic).

-1.12″ in diameter


-Due to the Tungsten you can expect more wobble than a standard BilletSPIN top. We are using the new tungsten but you will still see a flutter/wobble especially in the second half of the spin. Tops are sold as-is and I will not accept returns due to wobble/flutter

-$130 plus $5 domestic and $12 international shipping.

-We have enough Tungsten for 450 tops. A large portion of those will be junk due to excessive wobble. I will have to play it safe in the amount I make available because I will not have these all done in time for the release. This will hopefully mean there will be a second release once production is done (in a few weeks) and we know how many good ones we have.

-Due to the potential material issues, this design will NOT be retired after this sale. I am guessing this will be a huge hit and I would like to offer more of this one later in the year. However, I might not and this might be your only chance to get one. I just reserve the right to have another release later.

-There will NOT be a limit on how many you can order. I ask you to not buy this top to flip. Any comments to this post in regards to flipping will be deleted no questions asked.


Check this out…

Prototype spin contest! If you got one of the 42,517 Nexus prototypes, post up your best times here. On your honor. Winner gets to say they spun one of the 42,517 Nexus prototypes the longest!


As of now, 10 minute average to balance each Nexus. Going to be a long week

Remember there will be around 450 of them…

I am getting a system down for sure but it is just a tedious process.


Planning on ordering a Nexus? Be sure to watch this!!!


Today went well. I balanced 110. Getting the hang of it. Each bar is consistent from start to end so once we get the offset right for the first piece we can run the bar at the same setting. Should have them all balanced end of the day Wednesday if all goes well. This has no bearing on you all whatsoever but just thought I would share  😛

1st bar was dead perfect. Bore them, assemble, done. It was all down hill from there but still got a lot done

Each bar makes about 25 tops. Of those, they are pretty much identical. None of these will show a crazy variation to another one. They are all pretty close. If I didn’t balance them, they would be insanely different. This super light weight core just magnifies everything.

out of 400 there might be 10 DT smooth. Keep your expectations low but know the spin times will be very good regardless.


Getting close now, you ready!

Last minute Nexus info:

1) After getting the counts, we will be releasing 350 today at noon. We have more to run so I am very conservative on my numbers just in case something goes wrong here. We always keep extras for CS reasons. If we don’t scrap anymore, we might have a few to sell at a later date but it will be in a very small quantity. Nothing else I can do at this point because they are not all done and I need to play it safe.

2) When you purchase from the website, it is NOT yours until you COMPLETE checkout!!! Just because it is in your cart does not make it yours.

3) There will more than likely be people that miss out. People will be upset. I made ALL the material I had. I released ALL the tops I could. It sucks people miss out sometimes but lets try to keep the drama to a minimum.

4) I will NOT be making anymore Nexus tops. This is the only run of them but like I said in #1 there is a small chance I will have a few extras after the dust settles. DO NOT message me trying to get one if you missed out please. It just puts me in a bad spot as I like to please everyone.

5) Shipping will begin tomorrow and we should have them all shipped in one week.

6) I have said it a lot and the website is plastered with this: EXPECT FLUTTER/WOBBLE!!! This is Tungsten and I did my best to balance them but expect the worst.

7) The website will more than likely be password protected at some point this morning. It just means we are prepping for the launch. It will be back online well before noon central.

If you all have any questions, let me know! Looking forward to the fun and cant wait for you all to start getting these!

Just know, I made as many as I could all. If this balancing was not such a pain I would have ordered more stock for a second release. I am working on a solution for future long spinners though. THANK YOU for your support! Cant wait to see some times!

I was not expecting it to go that fast. Watching it was incredible

that was on par with the K2. Crazy. Back to balancing!


Good morning!

Top #35 “Crown”


I hope you all had a Happy New Year! I am officially back from vacation and ready to go! So much in fact I forgot we are off today but I showed up to an empty shop lol. Looks like we have made a decent amount of progress on the spheres, Christmas tops are done and shipped. Time to get caught up on some stuff and get designing the stemless top! After that will be the mini and then we get into our regular routine.

Lets make 2017 amazing and I hope you have a wonderful week. I missed yooze all!


Give me a heads up. How many of you are interested in a mini? Would you like 5/8″ or 3/4″? I will shoot for a two piece and try to keep the price between $100-$125 plus shipping. Reply “in” or “n” or “i” or “IN” or “in.” if you think you would be interested. This is NOT an order thread but just checking the demand on these. Be sure to include the size preference mentioned above.

Please only reply if you are interested in the top! Appreciate the feedback and I hope you all have a wonderful day!! Continue reading Top #35 “Crown”

January Updates

I hope you all had a Happy New Year! I am officially back from vacation and ready to go! So much in fact I forgot we are off today but I showed up to an empty shop lol. Looks like we have made a decent amount of progress on the spheres, Christmas tops are done and shipped. Time to get caught up on some stuff and get designing the stemless top! After that will be the mini and then we get into our regular routine.

Lets make 2017 amazing and I hope you have a wonderful week. I missed yooze all!


I have been asked this a lot lately. Please do not send BilletSPIN tops to anyone to have them disassembled and then reassembled to make a different top. You could potentially take two standard tops and have them made into a one off or into a very limited top. This will royally mess up the COA system and devalue BilletSPIN tops as well as take advantage of me. I am asking you because I cannot make you do this. I have contacted the people I know that offer this service and asked them not to mix and match. I only know of a couple of instances where this has happened.

I hope you understand and I appreciate the cooperation. It means a lot. I have no issues whatsoever with deep etching or polishing or any other cosmetic work. My issues is with changing the actual material combinations.

I will be updating the pinned post and this will be covered in it. Thanks again and I hope you all have a wonderful week!


1/4/17 now accepts paypal and Apple Pay…


So my wife Rich N Sue Stadler is considering joining the BilletSPIN team. She is currently working at K-mart and LOVES her job. I keep telling her how much more awesome it would be to hang out with all of you instead but she needs some convincing. Help a brother out and show Sue some love.

Big news, we just ordered a new machine. This will be identical to the last one. It is the perfect machine for tops. This will allow us a lot more versatility and will help with the increasing volume. My plan this year is to make some insanely original stuff but vary the materials enough to keep the quantities of each low while increasing the numbers of each design. That is a win for everyone. This will also help with the rings (which have been doing very well). This is of course all thanks to all of you and I appreciate that more than I could ever express. It will not get here for a while so we will keep plugging away but just wanted to let you all know the good news!


Official BilletSPIN Update: I thought heavily on this last night and this morning and took into account all of this groups feedback over the last few months. Here is what we will strive for. Of course there will be circumstances that I cannot predict right now that can make us deviate slightly from this plan OCCASIONALLY 🙂

-We will be primarily using for all of our sales. As soon as I am comfortable in a design, we will put up the countdown timer on the bottom of the main page of the website. If this timer is not accurate on your computer, look at the actual launch time/date next to the timer. The actual launch time/date will always be correct and in CST(Central Standard Time). Once the countdown timer has started, we will announce it here in the group, email blast to our website subscribers, announce it on IG and hopefully have a youtube video posted.

-We will be working on limiting the more limited material combo’s to one per person. Of course there are ways around whatever we put in place but we will do our best to give this a try.

-When we make these designs, we make a small amount of extras in case of customer service issues. These extras will be sold a few different ways much later. Sports shows, etsy, this group via scavenger hunts etc. Please DO NOT ask about acquiring these extras from me outside of that. I wont do it and it will just waste both of our time.

-We will continue to use Indiegogo a few times a year. This is a great way for us to grow BilletSPIN. This helps provide job security to our employees and families.

-We will still use the SUS website for specialty designs or combo’s. These Sign up sales will run on the website and will run for over a 24 hour period minimum so people in all time zones will be able to participate if they choose. A link to the SUS will be posted in this group.

I want to make this group a fun place to hang out. I don’t want this to just be about selling tops. In order to do that I like to do things like random GAW’s, scavenger hunts, flash sales, auctions etc. I will make these items from now on, the more “available” items instead of a design like the Timascus Triskelion. I hope that makes sense. I want to try to accommodate those that cant be watching this group every second of the day. If you do end up missing something, it wont be some super rare item and more than likely you would have had a chance to purchase it through the normal channels.

I suck at communication so I hope this makes sense. I know we have a ton of new people and so if you have any QUESTIONS, here is your time. There are other posts for suggestions, lets keep this one to questions/answers that pertain to people not understanding what has been mentioned in this post. I will update the pinned post to reflect this info. If you are new to BilletSPIN, be sure to read the pinned post. It will also answer a lot of your questions.

Sorry for the long post, thanks for all you do and make sure you have a great rest of the week!



Christopher Bathgate

Hey everyone, finally got my new art book together and I of course included a little section about Rich Stadler and our little top collaboration. thanks for those of you who contributed images for this section

I am still awaiting the final proofs to come in the mail before I update the book store and my website, but I thought it would be nice to offer advanced copies to everyone who follows my work.

Many of you have requested signed copies of previous editions, so I thought that as part of the pre-launch, I would offer signed copies, as well as a slightly discounted price to those of you who would like to pre-order the book now.

Keep in mind this is a self published small quantity book so the pricing will reflect the scale of the project.
(If I get enough sign ups, I may be able to discount the price further.)

Since I will be running this sale myself and processing will not go through Blurb (the POD publisher), I will need to set up a pre-order form like I have been doing with the small editions. So if you are interested in getting a copy at the introductory rate, click the link below and fill in the form.…/1FAIpQLSdacUECH_RULbOT8…/viewform…

BilletSPIN Cards

Coming soon

these will be on the website this week


Michael Bright  Over 2 months in the making, I introduce you to Billet Spin Playing Cards. Featuring iconic BilletSpin top designs from 2016, as well as a special guest appearance from the original and legendary Kraken. Honestly, who doesn’t want to throw in a pair of Krakens!

True to his word, Rich does indeed delete every file on the last run of each top design. As a result, each top has been re-drawn from scratch, taking even the smallest details into consideration. This unhealthy obsession started soon after the coin design contest, in which my entry included a combination of various BilletSpin tops.

Little did I know that this design would become the foundation of an epic personal project. The result of which is a completely unique custom themed card deck.

This limited first run is intended as an ideal gift for any top collector to compliment the hobby, if there is a serious interest in more collectable playing cards featuring various top designs, I would be keen to explore them.

In short, this is a fun way to share and celebrate such a great line up of Billetspin top designs from 2016. I hope you all enjoy them as much as I did creating them!

I know I can’t wait to get my hands on then and they are available now on the BilletSpin website under accessories:

The cards are Standard Poker Size 2.48” x 3.46” (63mm x 88mm)�
and are printed on 300gsm Smooth (Matte) card stock

Lastly, A huge thank you to Rich Stadler and Lindsey Wissing for allowing me to make these cards a reality, and to everyone in the group for posting such awesome pictures of your top collections! I would not have been able to re-draw them all if you hadn’t!

Christmas 2016 Top

Christmas is approaching fast, signaling the end of 2016. What a ride it has been. I have no words to describe how appreciative I am for the support you have shown. From all of us here at BilletSPIN, thank you. You have made this year truly amazing and I fell so blessed.

As a small token of our gratitude, we are making 100 Christmas Tops to giveaway here in the group. As you know, I am a man of faith. I wanted to engrave these tops but it did not fit on this design so instead every top will come with a Precious Promise Bible that has a few encouraging verses in it. I know not all share my beliefs and that is ok 🙂 I just want to share something with you that has so much meaning to me. If you are not interested, I understand and then I just want to wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.

If you would like to enter the giveaway, just reply with your favorite top design from 2016. One entry per person. We will figure out a way to pick the winners and let you know. We will keep this open for a few days.

Top information:
.98″ diameter
24 grams
1/8″ carbide bearing ball
one piece Stainless Steel

In closing, if any of you are struggling. Having a bad day or going through a difficult time and need someone to talk to, I am here. I care about all of you. Please don’t be afraid to message me. I am a good listener and have had my share of hard times.

Thank you all again, I look forward to getting to know you all more. I hope you have an amazing rest of your year.

Rich Stadler

timing the first spin of the Christmas top. 24 grams, what is your guess for spin time?

Just a closer look


December News

Latest video GAW!


Got some cool news. I will be a special guest on a show tomorrow night. The show will be starting at 8pm central but I won’t be on until about 9pm central. We will talk some tops and BilletSpin but mostly machining. Should be a good time and I am excited! Here is the link


BilletSPIN Update: The plan was to take it easy the last month and a half of 2016 lol. I think this is close to the busiest I have been all year. As of now, we have about 30% of the Torus tops made. We just filled a large amount of ring orders and have a few more to make. There will be more Tri-balls added to the website hopefully tomorrow in copper and bronze.

The next new project is a Christmas themed top. This is important to me because I am a man of faith and Christmas represents the birth of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. This top will be free. We plan on making 50 to giveaway to the group. I understand this top will not be fore everyone. If you don’t share the same beliefs as me, that’s ok  🙂 I love all of yooze!

After that, still hoping for a small run of mini’s and a cool two piece stemless. This year just keeps ticking away so hopefully we can fit it all in. I have things in my personal life that are taking me away too. My father-in law passed away last night.

I will do what I can to get this stuff done for you. Trying to get as much finished so it arrives before Christmas. I want to thank you for the huge success of the Torus. Record sales for a one piece top and that means so much.

If you got any questions let me know. I shared everything I can think of at the moment. I hope you have an awesome rest of your week.



Well I know I just told you the plans for the rest of the year but you can throw those out the window. Looks like my family is going on a cruise on the 19th. I will get done as much as I can but there is no way I can do the minis and stemless. They will have to wait until I get back. Christmas top will happen. Sorry for the delay.